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gramps

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Hello
I am in the market for some white noise generators.  I'm sure many of you in this forum probably share the same sentiment as me about the economics of these behind the ear open air devices.  Lets get down to brass tax, the markup by these manufacturers is disgusting and shameful, and I refuse to pay (many) thousands for something that should be a several hundred.  Why a few hundred you say?  It should be on par with budget hearing aids, or slightly lower. given what WNG do.  That is my 2 cents.

I researched for a few hours, and I thought i would share with all of you what i found about some options.

I saw a specialist last week.  She told me that some (but not all) of these manufacturer/devices that cost thousands have poor build quality. 

It has also occurred to me, that maybe we should have a thread on this message board solely devoted to, the make/model you use, and the positive or negative experiences you have with this device.

If any of you managed to find budget options.  please share.
My next post will show some of the stuff I found online.
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gramps

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Here is a list of the budget options I found online.  I also considered some alibaba options too.

I am considering solutions that are open air behind the ear, and that some of the tips which are inexpensive can be swaped out if needed.

Prices are per device, in USD (even though i'm Canadian)

There is the Puretone 22MA.  It appears to be an analogue device, but I i am not sure.
This seems to be the least expensive choice from a western world supplier (more on that later).  Ring in if any of you have used this.

$300 http://www.vitaminsforlife.co.uk/puretone-audimed-pt-22ma-wng-bte.html
$330 http://www.hearingdirect.com/products/Audimed-22MA-BTE-White-Noise-Generator.html

This appears to be the same device
$490 http://www.puretoneretail.net/22ma.html

Here is some of the overseas options from Alibaba and/or aliexpress which is meant for consumers.  If you are not familiar with alibaba, it is a marketplace that deals with manufacturers direct in mainland china.  There was a 60 minutes episode about it a few months back.    My goal was to figure out which manufacturers are re-branding brand name products.  I was unsuccessful in matching devices.  These cheap or imitation versions could be junk, or good. you never know.  I think a good tell, is if you see a sale for 1 device, more than likely that person was testing the waters to see if it was good.  If you see a repeat buyer for another device then they were happy with what they got.  It is just a theory.  anyways.  Here is what i found


This was one of the least expensive options.  They call themselves AcoSound tech canada.  I don't think they have anything to do with my country expect for the name in marketing.  I am not sure about the specs.  But only 1 transaction.....

$140 http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Acosound-Acomate-Tinnitus-Masker-white-noise-output-treatment/32286347353.html

This one has a minimum order quantity of 5 units.  meaning ~100? x 5 = 500.  Even at this price, it has the potential of being a bargain.

~$100?  http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Digital-tinnitus-masker-2-channels-medical_1769100762.html
 
This one is similar, but programmable.  The only question is, how do you program it.  This makes me skeptical.  Also a 5 unit minimum order.

~$100?  http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Programmable-digital-tinnitus-masker-2-channels_1768836107.html

anyways, that is what i have leared about the cheap stuff.
please share your informaiton about your devices about the devices you have found and why you like them or not.

thankns
-g
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Paulbe

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My biggest concern with these is the sound quality and whether they are therapeutically appropriate.  It seems a bit like lucky dip, given the number of people here and elsewhere who say their condition has worsened using TRT/Masking systems.  I'm prepared to pay a premium for expertise, but I agree that the generators themselves are only as expensive as they are so someone wants to get rich off our situation.
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Aplomado

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I use a general hearing tranquil instrument.  It does work.  It is absurdly expensive, around $1600 for each ear.  If it breaks the factory will fix it for $200 though.  I had to get one fixed after about two years.

The price does include counselling and audio tests through the audiologist though.

They only sell through audiologists.
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gramps

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The price does include counselling and audio tests through the audiologist though.

this seems to be standard practice for all manufacturers.  Can you find an online retailer anywhere based in North America?

I tried calling a local hearing center on friday, and it is the same racquet, i was given two prices.  One on the order of $3500 (for a set) for the standard model and another even more.
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Aplomado

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No, I'm pretty sure the General hearing instruments aren't available except via an audiologist, unfortunately.
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gramps

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are there any analouge devices from any other brand name manufacturers?   I am assuming they are less expensive, and was told are better for what i need.
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Aplomado

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I don't know.

The only think I know is that the GH instruments do work for hyperacusis.  I had good results with them; I had a relapse and had to re-start though, and it has been most annoying.
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