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Ed

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Hi guys, just wondering, at the moment I'm waiting for in ear generators from the NHS, but until then I've been using my PC fan as trt, hey it's white noise after all. I imagine it's running at around 20 dB give or take from sitting in front of it, I'm a bit of a computer nerd so I remember the fan specifications from when I bought them.

But anyway to the point, I decided a few days ago to start leaving it on at night for sound enrichment while I sleep, after all morning are the worst times for H because it has been so silent. Has anyone else tried nighttime enrichment? So far it seems fine.

Oh and by the way, computers use more electricity being turned on and off every day than they do being left on 24/7, so don't worry about environmental factors

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Johnloudb

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Fan sounds aren't considered the best sound enrichment, since many with hyperacusis have problems with fans, myself included. Fans were one of the first sounds I had trouble with when I first had hyperacusis. Nothing wrong with listing to it more though as you feel like it ... that's very helpful!!

Sound enrichment at night is extremely helpful however. You might consider a nature sound radio to play ocean or rain sounds, or the like. Or nature CD. Be sure to get used to the sound first before using it as sound enrichment, and make sure you can tolerate the sound for extended periods of time, especially if you plan on using it at night. It should be a pleasant sound you have no aversion too.

You can read about how to use sound enrichment here:

http://www.tinnitus.org

Anyway, if I were you, and I'm not (of course), I would just start working on a pleasant nature sound to use as sound enrichment during the day and night . New sounds need to be approached slowly though.

That's great that the fan isn't a problem for you, but I don't know that it would make the best sound enrichment at night.  

Well, that's just my thoughts though ... since you're asking.

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John


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aQuieterBreeze

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HI Ed,

Using something for sound enrichment can be very helpful and from what I have read is highly recommended.
Finding what works well for one on an individual basis is something that i think is important. Some find that they can tolerate the sound of a fan just fine, some find it is soothing to their tinnitus -
But for me it would not be what i would choose-
and it would not work well for me,
I would not have been able to tolerate it, as  I found the sound of a fan even on low speed difficult to tolerate for a long time, as the sound was hard on my ears.
(Though I may be able to tolerate it at times now, when my hearing/ears are not more sensitive than normal - but sensitivity can fluctuate, and it's still not something i would personally wish to use for sound enrichment ) 
But we are all different and there are threads and many posts around here that mention sound enrichment.And devices that are available as well as nature cds.
And even with a nature cd, we are all different in what we may find pleasing and tolerable .....and I think the network does have one available -
that is called Just Rain, though I have never tried it.

I would not suggest to someone that they leave their computer on all night for sound enrichment though -
It sounds like it could be harder on the computer to leave it running all the time .....
But others would know more about that  I do.

Glad to hear that you are taking some positive steps to improve your tolerances,
hope you have given up playing with the loud pyrotechnics in the game or sport you mentioned a long time ago....that could be very hard on ones ears .
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Ed

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HI Ed,

Using something for sound enrichment can be very helpful and from what I have read is highly recommended.
Finding what works well for one on an individual basis is something that i think is important. Some find that they can tolerate the sound of a fan just fine, some find it is soothing to their tinnitus -
But for me it would not be what i would choose-
and it would not work well for me,
I would not have been able to tolerate it, as  I found the sound of a fan even on low speed difficult to tolerate for a long time, as the sound was hard on my ears.
(Though I may be able to tolerate at times now, when my hearing/ears are not more sensitive than normal) 
But we are all different and there are threads and many posts around here that mention sound enrichment.And devices that are available as well as nature cds

I would not suggest to someone that they leave their computer on all night for sound enrichment though -
It sounds like it could be harder on the computer to leave it running all the time .....
But others would know more about that  I do.

Glad to hear that you are taking some positive steps to improve your tolerances,
hope you have given up playing with the loud pyrotechnics in the game or sport you mentioned a long time ago....that could be very hard on ones ears .


Well i've been building computers for many years now, and leaving them on 24/7 is only straining on the fans themselves, and even then we're talking a lifespan of 6-10 years being reduced to perhaps 4-8, and they cost peanuts to replace. After all, the very server this forum runs on is on 24/7.

And yes, pyrotechnics are in the past, I accepted long ago that such things would never be in my life again. A very minor loss compared to other things I have lost.

Thanks for the advice though guys, I'm going to keep with my night sound enrichment for now.
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aQuieterBreeze

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Hopefully you will find you regain a lot of what it seems you have lost.

Good luck as you go forward.

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Johnloudb

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Thanks for the advice though guys, I'm going to keep with my night sound enrichment for now.


Yeah, if you're already using it at night, best to keep doing it as long as it's working for you.

But, working on something else like nature sounds where you can adjust the volume can also be very helpful. When working through these challenges with sounds, you ears are more reactive sometimes than others and sound enrichment can sometimes get on your nerves and it is helpful to be able to turn the volume down.

I did use a fan (albeit a fairly loud one)  for sound enrichment for a year, because it sounded very good to me at first. And it helped but then my ears got hurt by some fan sounds and I couldn't tolerate the sound anymore. So, it's always good to have an alternative sound for sound enrichment. That's something you can ask your doctor about, though.

John
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aQuieterBreeze

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Hi John,

you mentioned-
.....working on something else like nature sounds where you can adjust the volume can also be very helpful. ......

That is a very good point - that with a fan and some other sounds as well, it could be difficult to control the volume -
and as my sensitivity goes back and forth at times, I know how important that can be ....
I wonder if it would be a little less of an  issue for someone with tinnitus, but without hyperacusis?

The people that I have mostly seen, that I recall offhand - posting about using fans for background sound , seem to be more affected by tinnitus - than hyperacusis....

Whatever one's situation though, I do think it is important to find what works well for one - on an individual basis -
As we are all different, and what we can tolerate and would find hopefully pleasing and soothing  can vary greatly from one person to the next.

And what we are able to tolerate, for background sound, and sound in general - can thankfully change in a very positive direction - over time, as well. As we work on improving our tolerances in ways that are helpful for us to do so .....
And I think it helps for people to realize that.
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mondelle

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I also uses sound enrichment at night, before i got my sound machine that plays white noise, i just stationed one of my radios to a non F.M. frequency and it plays white noise just as well as the sound machine.
Using a fan even though it was quiet was a tad intrusive and it did make my H slightly worse,but each of us have to find our individual sound that works for us.

I usually have a humidifier on at the lowest setting and that works good for me also,as long as it does not drown out the T and i can handle the sounds pretty good. I have very bad T and more than 50% hearing lost bilaterally.

It has been almost 15 months since my T manifested,the hearing lost i  have always had from a kid,and at first i was off the walls crazy with no where to turn for help,so not being able to afford all the medical personnel that would be able to help me,i decided to educate myself on finding out all i can about this condition.

I have this site and the ATA site to thank for keeping me relatively sane and functioning, now i am just trying to live my life with some alterations and a lot of hope and thanks.

Stay strong and keep doing the therapy,in time relief will come.
Annette

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JenMcK

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Does anybody know if TRT is helpful when someone is asleep?  Or do you have to be awake for it to be effective?  Or does it not matter?  Thanks.

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aQuieterBreeze

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From what I understand TRT is a therapy that one uses /goes through, (with the help of a clinician who is strained to provide it)  that can encompass many aspects of daily life -
sound enrichment is part of TRT...but is not all that is involved.

Using sound enrichment while asleep can be helpful - using it while awake is too.......

For someone undergoing TRT, I think part of it also involves a different way of looking at and thinking about sound.
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