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Here is a clue to finding the clue:  San Francisco is a nice place to be from.

hey dude. THE SIXTIES are letters in the anagram. that's when san francisco was a really nice place to be from, visit, or join a commune. didn't i see you there playing keyboard with the grateful dead? ...or maybe it was grace slick, or country joe. whatever...peace bro


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Rob,

Looking down at scrabble letters on my kitchen counter was less than comfy for my neck so I figured out a way to put the anagram letters on my computer desktop (see attachment).  Maybe a little crude, but it works.  I can move them all over the place as well as quickly hide them from view and just as quickly bring them back.

Notice what I've written with some of the letters from the anagram. 

WE NEED ANOTHER CLUE

Don't mean to be impolite, but there are no P's, G's, or V's in the anagram  (although yesterday dude hallucinated a V) so I can't write: PLEASE GIVE US ANOTHER CLUE.....duh...although I guess I just did. 

I think DP is about to give up.  And I'm just hanging on by a thread...or perhaps those questions marks I drew.  Whatever...  SOS 


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Hello everyone!

I was headed back to Oz after visiting Kansas when I spotted the SAT Questions on this board, so I thought I'd drop in and put all the wild speculations to rest.

The answers are really a no brainer.  Even Scarecrow would agree.  Forget about those alien theories and think CYCLONE -- it's one of the words that can be formed with the letters in the anagram. 

So the answers to the questions are simply:

A.  Yes, it's possible.  The people were sucked out by a cyclone.

B.  Yes it's possible.  People were dropped onto or into the bus by a cyclone.

As for the part about "San Francisco is a nice place to be from"....well, I have the inside scoop on this.  One man who got sucked out of the bus used to live in San Francisco.  As he whirled around in the wind, his life flashed before him and he was reminded of his years in Frisco.  Although he'd experienced an earthquake or two, he'd never been thru anything like this.  So at one point he muttered, "San Francisco is a nice place to be from..." to which he added, "and I never should have left.  Dylan was right about Blowin' in the Wind.  The answer is clear, I'm moving back to San Francisco if I get out of this alive!"

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This came in my inbox:

Any          to say     the                                         .


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DP - Is that exactly how the spacing looked between the words?  Hard to tell how many words may be between Any and to, and say and the.  Although I can see there's a whole lot of words between the and the period.

Rob - Thanks for another clue.  So much for Dorothy's theory about CYCLONE since you used up all the y's. 


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DP - I answered my own question by mocking up the spacing.  I don't think you can accurately gage the word length by the way this is written.

By calculating the spacing for the missing words up to the period I came up with 31 spaces + the words "Any to say the" = 11 spaces, for a total of 42 spaces between A (in Any) and the period.  Since there are 55 letters in the anagram, plus spacing needed between the words, the spacing below isn't an accurate guide.

Any          to say     the                                         .

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Oh me oh my.  I guess I was wrong about the cyclone.  I just discovered the letters from the anagram also spell:

SURRENDER DOROTHY

Drat!  I thought I melted that witch with a bucket of water. 


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This came in my inbox today. (Seems the spacing in the anagram has been modified slightly):

This is the final clue.  Everything you need to solve both puzzles can be found in the thread even without this most untoward of anagrams.  Even so, finding the magic word in the anagram will perhaps clue you into the solution. 

Any          to say        the                                         .
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DP

I wonder if we can find someone who will give a 2 for 1 discount for lessons in Urdu.  From reading and rereading all of Rob's clues, seems like it might be helpful to be fluent in that language.

As for that dang anagram....!!!!  I hope this condition isn't permanent (see attachment).


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As some plausible scenarios have been suggested before and none have been found to be the intended solution, this riddle is one of those "what am I thinking" type riddle which can be quite difficult to solve. My suggestion at this point is to allow yes/no type questions to be asked in order to help the folks eliminate solutions that are not what the author intended. Most riddle forums allow this type of questions after a riddle bogs down since what the author intended can be nigh impossible to guess otherwise.

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DP,

I know Rob is trying to take a 2 month break from the board.  Maybe he will be willing to answering yes/no questions upon his return.  It would be one thing if this riddle was a Zen koan and I knew that by pondering it I might be moving towards enlightenment. But, alas such is not the case, I'm just moving towards becoming permanently cross eyed.

I noted that when I tried to do the wild duck chase in the Daily Question thread, no one participated.  Not surprising, as the duck could have been hidden anywhere on this entire message board.  Even when I confined the duck to the cow thread, nobody went searching for him to try and sort him out from all the other duck pictures I'd posted earlier in that thread.

So then I posted a 23 letter anagram as a clue, but came to realize that even though it was short compared to some that Rob has posted, there were thousands of possibilities to the answer and people would probably be brain dead before they figured it out. 

So next I set up the anagram to be played sort of like the game of hangman, where people could pick one of the letters from the anagram and I'd fill in one of the 23 blanks.  I let that sit on the board for a day, but when only Clouseau came forward to participate...well, I gave up on the riddle and deleted it from the board ( so now you know what really happened to that riddle -- if you ever even wondered). 

Personally I think it would be helpful if Rob would at least let us know how many letters are between the words he's supplied so far,  e.g....

ANY __ __ __ __  __ __ __ TOSAY__ __ __ __ __ THE__ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __.

Note:  The combined total of letters and spaces above is 55, equaling the total number of letters in the anagram.


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This came in my inbox today:

I can hear the violins scaping away.  No one is clever enough to come up with two riddles that can't be solved, particularly by folks as gifted as you guys.  Of course, if you want to give up that's another story.  Perhaps if you review all the facts, throughout the entire thread, you can find the answers thru a process of elimination.  Someone has come close to solving both riddles.
 
Kid Pro Quo


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OK I'll take another crack at it.

a) no it is not possible... No bus departing Ridgewood NJ stops in Cleveland Ohio as per the Greyhound schedule published above.

b) no it is not possible... No bus leaving Cleveland Ohio stops in Ridgewood NJ as per the same schedule.

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I can hear the violins scaping away.  No one is clever enough to come up with two riddles that can't be solved, particularly by folks as gifted as you guys.  Of course, if you want to give up that's another story.  Perhaps if you review all the facts, throughout the entire thread, you can find the answers thru a process of elimination.  Someone has come close to solving both riddles.

Me "give up"???   I think you know how persistent I can be, as evidenced by the length of the cow thread.  Once I get my eyes uncrossed I will continue to read and reread all the facts, and post more answers, no matter how absurd they may seem, as I suspect the real answers are in that realm or possibly beyond...   Meanwhile I'm working on becoming fluent in Urdu.  I spent the day interviewing tutors.

BTW - Who is the someone who has come close to solving both riddles?


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Rob,

Although I'm not giving up on this riddle, I would like to point out that in the cow thread it took 4 people to sort out all your postings, riddles and clues (not counting the impostors, who were actually part of the 4 people).

Four people and one of you.  Now what does that tell you?  Right now it's just me and DP, and although we ain't dumb, you've got a way of putting a spin on words that...well... it's enough to tie someones brain in a knot for a couple of lifetimes or more.

I mean like for example you signed your latest posting "Kid Pro Quo."  And now I'm asking myself -- is that another clue?  Is he referring to that episode of Law & Order?  Should I read up on it, rent the video, ponder it?  Or is it bogus?  Oh agh!!!

Must get some sleep.  Will probably have strange dreams about a bus driving in circles going nowhere, like in the movie Speed.  Sandra Bullock will probably turn into Kid Pro Quo; the wicked witch will fly in from Oz;  the aliens will show up and say, "Beam us up Scotty," and the bus will disappear. 

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PART B:

 

Only 3 single people (including the bus driver) left the bus.  The bus driver got back on (now 48 passengers). The bus driver then got married so that  when he departed Ridgewood in PART A, he was married.


PART A:

 

Everyone got off the bus and were all married including the bus driver.

 


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DP,

It's nice to see you too have not given up, and that your answers don't even sound very strange....yet.   I'm rooting for you to figure this out as you have been pondering it the longest.  I'm weary and bleary from too little sleep and may post some answers....?  later today if you haven't figured it out by then. 

Go get um.

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An update...

I met with my new tutor today and had my first lesson in Urdu.  She started by teaching me the most important sentence to say when encountering someone who speaks Urdu.

Kamaa aap kehna English?


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Here is a clue to finding the clue:  San Francisco is a nice place to be from.  

Okay, now I'm going to state what I really think is the meaning of the above clue:

San Francisco is a nice place to be from, but I wouldn't want to live there.

I must acknowledge that I do agree with this sentiment because although I like to visit there, I have never liked living there.  Too many buildings and people, and not enough greenery for my needs, as well as too much fog!  Now what that has to do with the anagram, I dunno; I'm still working on sorting that out.  I must acknowledge that researching possible words for it has increased my vocabulary immensely.  Now if I can just learn to use them in sentences, I think I will be able to reach new heights in confusing people when participating in conversations.

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In PART A, correctly solving all -- and even part -- of the anagram holds the key to the answer to this part.  In other words, you need not solve the entire anagram.  It is possible that locating a single word in the anagram could provide the key to answering this most confounding of questions.  The key, of course, is to find that word.  Alternatively, if you are so inclined to find it, another clue is planted somewhere in Rob's posts in that thread.

After continuing to ponder the anagram from many perspectives, I think it's time for me to give up on it and just focus on the initial riddle unless I receive a confirmation that either LUNATIC or NEURASTHENIC is the single most important word in the anagram. 

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Part B:

48 people left the bus in  Ridgewood, Ohio which was another intermediate stop made by the bus. (could even be the same stop two hours outside Cleveland)

http://abstusa.com/oh/ridgewood



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New theory...  Some of the letters in the anagram spell the word LOST.  I think this bus ride may have something to do with that TV show, and if anyone can unravel the mysteries of what is taking place in that series, then the answer to these SAT questions maybe close behind.  I suspect this bus maybe traveling in an alternate reality, consisting of one group of people, and "the others." 

The good news is, if my theory is correct and nobody can figure this riddle out, we just have to wait for the series to end in say... 5 or 6 years, and then the answer will be revealed. 

Darcy

p.s.  I have a feeling the alternate reality is related to The Most Isolated City in the World. 

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The reference to San Francisco is probably in relation to Robert Frost, who was born there. Rob quoted Bob Frost as saying "You have miles to go before you sleep" meaning you still have some ways to go in your journey, (either that or the bus driver was suffering from sleep deprivation). The poem is called "Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening". Perhaps there is a clue there.

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The reference to San Francisco is probably in relation to Robert Frost, who was born there.

Yes, but did Robert Frost think "San Francisco is a nice place to be from"...?   I was over there yesterday and found myself rewriting the words to that old 60's song by Scott McKenzie entitled "San Francisco."

Notable words from the song:

If you're going to San Francisco
Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
If you're going to San Francisco
You're gonna meet some gentle people there
For those who come to San Francisco
Summertime will be a love-in there...


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Yesterday I modified the words to:

If you're going to San Francisco
Be sure to take a coat and muffler there
If you're going to San Francisco
You're gonna meet some freezing people there
For those who come to San Francisco
Be aware a cold wind's always there...



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