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AmirKaz

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Hello. I want to tell my story. I am basically a Civil Engineer. I do not work on a construction site. I work and teach civil engineering subjects at a technology college offering diploma degree in construction.

Normally I do come accross very noisy students, they scream, yell. All of that. its normal.

 

I also sing professionaly, 2 days ago (actually Sunday night , European time) I was practising harmony with Mastering Harmony with brett manning. it's a software for training to sing harmony.

In this software, they used SINE WAVES of different intervals like 2nd minor, 2nd major, octave. Without the piano overtone. I would actually hear the vibrations, which are very magnetic. in the cd Brett manning asks one to listen to it like 20 times, so one can be able to recognize the intervals. (this was not the first time i got to know about intervals, i could sing before it)

I was tired after teaching Strength of materials course all the week, correcting papers, and exams over the weekend. I was exhausted. I fell asleep with that thing on REPLAY.

 

I did not use headphones, it was from the laptop speakers infact.

 

So for almost 8 hours those sine waves repeated themselves at different frequencies.

When i woke up, I saw the laptop on, and i recalled that I had not shut it off. And heard brett mannings voice explaining the exercises, then playing sine ways.

 

Suddenly I realized, I couldn't hear what he was informing about anymore

 

My hearing was DISTORTED. if brett was saying this "we will go up to an octave, from low to high, etc" The words were distorted. And I thought something was wrong with the mp3 file from the digital download i had gotten from their website.

 

I tried another mp3 file from one of the other exercises. No problem at all.

Then listend again, and the same problem. I thought "The mp3 must be corrupt, let me try to download it again". And I did. Same problem. So I assumed my laptop must have a problem.

 

I took it over to my mobile phone, sent it to my office computer... Same, and I started to wonder. I got worried and anxious. I said maybe Im just tired or getting sick.

 

So I went to office, everything seemed normal. I could listen to songs, I taught in the class as normal. In the evening my music producer sent a new track that i was gonna record So I practised. all was fine, I just felt tired. And went to bed.

 

2nd day waking up. I was curious to try listening again to that exercise file for mastering harmony. for a moment it sounded normal. but then i listened again. And the distorsion came back, this time it was ACHING in my ears.

 

I closed it. went to snooze again.

 

Then i woke up and suddenly from my appartment, the sound of birds through the window, their sounds pierced my ears. it was so HIGH and loud. like a knife penetrating my eardrum. I panicked. and decided i must ask the nurse who works at the school where I work.

 

I went there and hurried. on my way, everything was loud, car engines, i could hear peoples steps very loud from behind me, many metres. Peoples footsteps across the pavement on the on the other street. Dogs, sounds was loud, wind. bushes. Everything came into my ears and hurt them.

 

Arriving at office i went there, and they said its nothing And i went into my office. Suddenly fan sounds, and ventilation kept loud. my colleague came, and he asked if we could lunch. i said. I had taken lunch. and he said what I thought his lips meant "see you later", I said "what did you say?" "s y la'e" it sounded like that. Like American English (It was said in Swedish btw) became german. Distorted. I said, take care.

 

I hurried, i couldnt focus on my tasks. the sounds from my students were loud, I heard people from the other room loud. I could barely hear myself anymore. the messenger signal from the app for fb, was so loud it pierced my ears.

 

Talking on the phone, sounded lower, and i heard everything around me.

 

I came to the doctor, and they didnt know. and put me on a long queue in this system over here. Not knowing when I would get help.

 

I could not stay in the office. I went home to hide the rest of the day. I couldnt sleep or anything. Finally i did sleep.

 

I woke up in the morning, things was the same. I researched things. I found pink noise online, and i made sure to find the correct quality on youtube (that actually was pink noise).  I took off from office, and slept to it for a few hours. Then i woke up it was still there.

 

I continued. slept again. Finally i couldnt stand it, i search youtube, found some "stories about it" very little info there. Then i thought, since doctors did test on me, and not even tinnitus was there. Because i heard no such thing.

 

I made assumption based on my readings that H and T can be related.

 

I saw that trick where u put ur hands on the back of ur head and snap with index fingers on back of ur head. I did this pretty hard. after listening to pink noise.

 

First 30-40 times, then 50 times.

 

After it, suddenly everything was gone. its been 10 hours. I had no problem. I went out. i did go back into my office today, because i forgot something there. Not same. I could speak to my children on phone, i didnt get hurt. I even asked them to shout as loud as they could close to the phone. Nothing

 

One thing that still remains which I never had before. Was observing and noticing sounds. The sensitivity to sounds are there. But they are not loud or damaging.

 

I feel that the effect of that i can hear and focus on sounds more clear without getting pain (i.e my voice and base tones and loud ones, are balanced now), I can sing on pitch. i can hear myself. all is fine.

 

I still feel tired. and have headache because all the energy drained from me last 3 days. I feel the effects (over sensitive to sounds) is sort of a positive thing as long as the volume isnt higher. especially for my singing, i can observe the contents and parts of a song clearer now.

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Aplomado

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Great!  Hope it holds up for you.  Avoid noisy situations in the future to reduce the risk of a relapse.  Not joking.

My hyperacusis spontaneously vanished too soon after my jaw joint popped out of socket.  I don't know why.  It came back a day or two later for no apparent reason.  I have no idea if my jaw had anything to do with it or not.  It is a mystery I have given up trying to explain.

Hopefully you will have better luck than me.  At least you don't have tinnitus, that is a great sign.
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Laurac1960

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Hyperacusis can definitely be caused by jaw problems, see your dentist and check out TMJ. My bite is out of alignment at the moment, possibly as the result of dental work last year. I've had an intolerance to loud noise since major surgery to my face 20 years ago where my jaw was broken after a bus crash.

My hyperacusis means I shake whenever I'm close to fans, boilers, AC and even the fridge downstairs can set me off. However, I still go to gigs and festivals and managed holiday last year even though it hurts. I believe sitting at home and hiding from it can be the worst thing to do. I just need to be distracted all the time. I'm currently buzzing/shaking away due to my neighbours washing machine but hopefully when I leave this forum and think about something else, I'll feel better.

[smile]
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Aplomado

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Laurac1960, you are right that hyperacusis can be caused by jaw issues for some people.  However, mine started after a gunshot noise.  TMJ issues only started for me after the incident where my jaw joint popped out, when I already had hyperacusis.  Splint therapy was effective for treating the TMJ, but had no effect on my ears.


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Aplomado

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How are you doing now?
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AmirKaz

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I am doing excellent! No sensitivity. No pain.. nothing. Everything is as normal
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Aplomado

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Good!  I hope you continue to feel well.  Remember to watch your exposure to loud sounds (loud music, etc) you have been given a huge warning sign.  Keep us updated.
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Laurac1960

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I've never heard of splint therapy? Am off to google it now. I think my H became worse when I started sleeping on that side of my face due to skin problems. I can't swap sides back as I was developing a pressure sore on my hip. (I'm paraplegic also) Good to hear finally that someone had their hyperacusis cured, gives me some hope [smile]
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Aplomado

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Hello Laurac1960,

If you have jaw issues, you should definitely try splint therapy.  It "may" help.  Your results may vary.  I wore a plastic device between my teeth.  Eventually, it made my jaw stop hurting, though it took a long time.  Every once in a while my jaw hurts again, and I wear the splint at night for a few days until it goes away.  I went to a dentist who specializes in TMJ issues to get mine.
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AmirKaz

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All good still.
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AmirKaz

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On an occasion now. My kids yelled very high (girls) for about an hour they were acting loud and wild close to my ear. No issues.


I am completely normal.
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Laurac1960

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So happy you have managed to find a cure for the hyperacusis. I was going to ask where you lived as it sounds like your treatment is exactly what I need. I've been waiting since February 2016 to see the right consultant. So now I'm wishing I lived in Sweden instead of the UK, on not a waiting list of five million people who need funding for their treatment.[rolleyes]
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AmirKaz

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The waiting list is long here too. But yeah maybe not like the UK.

 

I most likely self healed.

 

 

The best thing I feel one can do is to stay off reading the internet and read negative posts.



But I have fully recovered now. I spoke with another doctor today about it.

 

He said that my case is very unique. And that I got very extreme hyperacusis, but that it seems rather than the pathways inside the ear was affected rather than the ear itself.

 

That is why I was not permanently damaged.

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Aplomado

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I read somewhere that this may have an effect on some people because it stimulates the vagus nerve, which runs up the base of the skull... I hope you are continuing to feel well.  Your case is really interesting.  Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have an effect on me.
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rodmccain

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Hi Amirkaz,

I experienced distorted temporary hearing of my husbands voice, after three days of a very high dose of Naproxin pain killer.  This was several years ago BEFORE my H and T.  This is over the counter meds as well.  Mine was Rx strength.  I went to bed and when I woke up I was completely normal !  Needless to say I never took it again !

I have had my current T and H though for almost five years, due to a very loud enclosed MRI, for which I had 30 decibel hearing protection!   The symptoms you are describing are almost exactly like mine now, except the burning pain has subsided   Sound is very clear to me, and not distorted.   
 



Take care,
Kathy Mc
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AmirKaz

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Hi, my doctors has determined I don't suffer from this symptom anymore.
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Jigsaw

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"I saw that trick where u put ur hands on the back of ur head and snap with index fingers on back of ur head. I did this pretty hard."

Could you please explain your trick in detail?

Where do you have seen this trick, what is the source of it?

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Aplomado

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Here it is:



Didn't do anything for me, but certainly worth trying!

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Jigsaw

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Thank you, but the video-clip is not available in my country.

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AmirKaz

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And yeah its called the "temporary relief". And that is what it is for T.

 

But I didn't have T, but I got the idea just to try it.

 

I did it quite hard first 30 times. then 50 times.

I tried doing it slowly, faster.

 

And it worked.

 

I have no symptoms anymore. I am so happy it worked.

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AmirKaz

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Its good that it worked. I tried a bit pink noise therapy from youtube.

I slept with it playing on my mobile beneath my pillow during the ight. Felt really good. I kinda got addicted to it.

 

Then the problems vanished. And here I am.

 

I have exposed myself to louder sounds as much as i can like before. And  there is no problem.

Doctors say i don't have H anymore and that it was just something temporary.

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Jigsaw

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Thank you very much for the video-clip!
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Aplomado

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Originally Posted by AmirKaz

I have exposed myself to louder sounds as much as i can like before. And  there is no problem.



Exposing yourself to loud sounds "just like before" is not a good idea.  Seriously, you don't want a relapse, and it absolutely can happen.  I have had multiple ones.  Carry ear plugs and use them in loud situations.  I personally "recovered" after six months of sound therapy only to have a horrific relapse from an obnoxious bagpipe player.  It has been a few years now and I still haven't been able to recover fully again.
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redcomet69

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The reddit technique has never worked for me
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AmirKaz

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You mean to cure T, or to cure H?.

 

I guess it isnt supposed to work with H?

 

 

And btw Aplomado, as I am a singer professionally + work as a lecturer. I need to expose myself to high sounds all the time.

 

My only option would be changing jobs if i had got permanent H for life. to structural designer or something. But thank god. thats not what i got.

 

 

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Aplomado

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I recommend you wear Musicians Earplugs.  They lower volume without distorting it.  They are made for this sort of thing.  I use some from Etymotic, but there are a lot of brands. They cost about $12 on amazon.

You do not want a relapse; it happend to me.

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