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SandyHendry

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I played 12 songs a small jazz/folkrock jam with about 30 people over the weekend on a full drum kit with brushes and I can't really say I had much fallout aside from a bit of a headache on waking up the next day. I had hyperacusis two years ago with 60-70 DB LDLs and was recently tested at 90-100.

Question is does anyone who has done similar have any tips for how to assess/minimize the risks I am taking? 

 

 

 

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Aplomado

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Muscians ear plugs?

Personally, I wouldn't do that at all.
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SandyHendry

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I don't like the ear plug option as I believe my problem is anxiety and not serious ear damage so the plugs just make the contrast worse. The quiet drum session is like constant desensitization that makes sudden noise shocks like bus brake hydrolics or horns easier to cope with. It's a fine line but so far so good. I live in Hong Kong so there is no escaping noise. I must learn to live and love it.
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SandyHendry

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Hi Aplomado,

I read some of your posts and from it you can see how difficult it is to avoid sudden noises. You were doing well and then you had the bagpipe incident and the car horn incident. That kind of thing is kind of unavoidable unless you live in the countryside. So what to do? Well what worked for me was two things in that regard:

1) Meditation. When the sudden noise hits you, with daily 20 minute meditation practise, you are able to immediately calm your tense muscles and when you think back with anger at that stupid bagpiper or whatever you can gently escort that thought away so that you don't obsess.

2) Regular exposure to pleasant loud noise. Now you don't want to damage your ears so nothing above 80 DB for too long but I did Dance Central Xbox game, listened to music at a reasonable volume for a couple of ours a day, took up drumming on an electric kit, drummed with brushes. All of that isn't as loud as the bagpipes or a carhorn right next to your ear but when those two things happen to you, you won't find them as alarming and your fight/flight response won't be triggered as badly.

OK it worked for me because my problem is linked to anxiety, work stress and psychological impact of my parents dying but hyperacusis is caused by many other things so it may not work for you. 

 

 

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Johnloudb

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Hi Sandy,

If you can play the drums fine and do alright on the streets of Hong Kong, without pain, you probably don't have hyperacusis anymore. So, I agree with your accessment that you your symptoms have more to do with misophonia. As I work at exposure I do get headaches now and then and even listening longer to sounds That are not loud longer can cause a headache. It happens most often with "new" experiences, meaning new since I've had hyperacusis and phonophobia. Hazell says it's a limbic and autonomic nervous system response to a sound I'm phobic or have aversion to.

You like to play the drums right? I think you've mentioned that before. Personally I would use musicians ear plugs if playing the drums for very long as it could cause hearing damage. My psychologist has hearing loss and uses hearing aids due to playing drums live in a band a lot. He said he felt his hearing loss was genetic, but I also think some people ears are more susceptible to damage. My dad played The French horn in and orchestra, and plays the stereo crazy loud and my high frequency hearing loss was worse than his, 6khz versus 10kHz for him. He's 80 now and I think his hearing is getting worse but he hasn't had it checked.

Anyway, I like the way you deal with your sensitivity challenge. And if you back off playing loud for a bit and do CBT my guess is you'll handle the drums better next time in the situation you were in.

But I also think using some level of protection when playing loud for very long is a good idea.

John
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