saab1216
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| | 10/01/09 at 08:05 PM | Reply with quote | #1 |
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Does anyone here have a problem with peoples voices? I dont have much of a loudness issue anymore but some voices really bother me. They sound too low and very raspy or very high piercing and hissy. The television is still way too sharp and so is a lot of music. Instead of improving in these areas,they seem to have been more in focus for me.
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jayjay
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| | 10/01/09 at 10:07 PM | Reply with quote | #2 |
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Voices bother me as the day wears on. When I talk or when others talk at night, I can feel my ear drums "beating." The same thing happens in the shower or places that echo. My ear drums begin to "flap" very rapidly, as if they're unable to withstand the noise. It's very weird and disturbing. I get freaked out when this happens.
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Johnloudb
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| | 10/01/09 at 10:14 PM | Reply with quote | #3 |
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Hi Paul, I don't really have a problem with the quality of voices. When my hyperacusis was getting worse, before started living indoors, my grandmother came downstairs to talk to me when my ears were shot. And her voice was very irritating and I started avoiding her for next few days, and it wasn't long after that I retreated indoors wearing ear protection constantly, because I was phobic.
When I got help with TRT, I just started listening more to all sounds, and gradually doing more. My dad's voice was particularly annoying to me for years because he'd come in my room when I was try to relax and start talking at me. I'd try to listen then cover my ears while he went on talking. I just kept persisting and now I handle his voice as good as any. Even though I didn't appreciate him coming in my room and bothering me, I'm glad he did. He comes in my room now and talks at me, and it's just not a problem now usually. Unless I've done a lot of talking that day and had enough. So, I still have aversion to talking, but I can't say talking or even yelling is irritating to me, for a certain length of time.
I just keep slowly facing my dislikes, doing more and think good thoughts. And in time these things improve and are no longer a problem. Reversing these reflexes can take years.
Sounds like it's just unpleasant, and doesn't hurt? Well, I know you tolerate most sounds much better that I do. I'd think it'd be just a matter of time for you. And good thoughts of course.
I did have a problem once when the ear devices really bothered me when I'd try to listen longer. They made my head ring more, tough it didn't hurt. I just didn't like it. I was up to 20 minutes at the time. I can't really remember why I had a setback with them. But anyhow, I don't know. When I listen more to running water my ears and head get ringing more and I just relax and let things calm down, and then go about my business.
I really believe that we just have to keep at this and persist and try not to focus/worry about our disaffections. And these things will eventually go away. It may take a year or two, hopefully not.
At least that been my experience.
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Rob
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| | 10/01/09 at 10:57 PM | Reply with quote | #4 |
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Paul --
I used to be unable to tolerate some voices, male or female. The sound of these speaking voices was painful and sharp like a knife. I no longer have that problem.
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saab1216
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| | 10/02/09 at 05:05 AM | Reply with quote | #5 |
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Thanks, Rob and John for shedding some hope on this. It is true that I can withstand so many general sounds now but when it comes to personal communication,I lack ear power.
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tjl731
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| | 10/02/09 at 09:43 AM | Reply with quote | #6 |
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I sometimes have a hard time with womens voices because of higher frequences. I also have an aversion to "s" words that aggravate my tinn/hyper. Sometimes when my husband talks at a normal level I have to ask him to talk more softly. I try not to avoid these sounds and I try not to focus too much on the way it affects my tinn/hyper and just try to focus on other things in life as focusing on it just makes it worse for me. |
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aQuieterBreeze
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| | 10/02/09 at 02:33 PM | Reply with quote | #7 |
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Hi Paul,
Even though I am thankfully able to tolerate a lot more in the way of sound, and levels of sound in general, than I used to be able to -
some vocal ranges, and qualities - including those in music, and also voices in conversation (live or on the phone), and also some other sounds are still more difficult for me. Even though the volume in at least some cases is not as loud as some other things I Can tolerate. Also, raspiness in voices (and in vocals in music) can be more difficult for me as well. Smoother voices are easier on my ears.
And in general, I find, lower pitch/deeper voices and ones that are low in pitch and "project loudly" and/or are more resonate - are more difficult for me.
In my case I think it is a matter of being able to re-acclimate /reestablish my tolerance to specific frequency ranges.
I have been more sensitive to the lower frequencies in general and have found that as I work with sound, (in ways I have found to be helpful) that is a little lower in pitch/tone than what I used to be able to tolerate, As I am able to do so -
(And I have done that gradually step by step. a little at a time, over time - as I am able to)
And I have found after awhile, that I am better able to tolerate more sound in the real world that is lower in pitch/tone than what I used to be able to tolerate. That includes voices. But when my hearing gets more sensitive, from being around or exposed to sound that is too much For Me to tolerate, those sounds, and others, may be more difficult for me to tolerate again, until that increased sensitivity fades. (I still have a more difficult time with the lower frequencies in general, though Very high pitch sounds can also be difficult for my hearing/ears.) And I am also still limited in the amount of the overall volume of sound I can tolerate. Though as I mentioned, I can tolerate a lot more in the way of sound, than I used to be able to.
By the way - I really noticed a change in what I could tolerate awhile back when my fridge sounded a bit quieter, and less bothersome. And the refrigerated sections in the grocery store I frequent did as well. And it all keeps changing, for the most part and overall - in a very positive direction.
Hi Rob,
you mentioned-
I used to be unable to tolerate some voices, male or female. The sound of these speaking voices was painful and sharp like a knife. I no longer have that problem.
That is wonderful and very encouraging to hear.
In your view, is that at least in part because you have continually and persistently worked on reestablishing your tolerances to sound (by desensitizing to sound) - in ways that you have found helpful for you to do so?
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Grahame
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| | 10/14/09 at 08:07 PM | Reply with quote | #8 |
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Hi Paul
I have just joined this site because I have pain when hearing high pitched voices. Shrill voices or laughter have me in pain all day.
I don't know what to do. ENT specialist couldn't help, tried hypnotherapy, ear plugs. About the best I can do to get relief is play white noise thru headphones.
As I haven't been thru all the posts here yet, I'd also like some advice/help.
Grahame
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jayhybrid
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| | 10/14/09 at 11:12 PM | Reply with quote | #9 |
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| Female voices effect my hearing much more than male voices.
My sensitivity to sound seems to be around 6khz +
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Johnloudb
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| | 10/15/09 at 01:07 AM | Reply with quote | #10 |
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Grahame,
Most ENTs are no help, unless they have TRT training. I'd recommend visiting this site:
http://www.tinnitus.org and read everything and learn about TRT and the Jastreboff Model for hearing. Using ear protection a lot will make your ears more sensitive. You should also see about getting to an TRT trained doctor if possible. There is also a pink noise CD available from this site.
Best of Luck,
John
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Tony
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| | 10/15/09 at 06:35 AM | Reply with quote | #11 |
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Hi all,
I recently became aware of this site, and yeah some voices bother me too. My wife for one.....at times when she stands near me I have to ask her to speak softer, or shut up....lol.
I can be at a meeting hall, and only certain speakers with a certain pitch annoy me.
My biggest problem is my own voice, as it distorts my hearing, and speaking on the phone is a big challenge as well.
I 've been at a cinema though with wall to wall speakers, and there were only a few instances where it distorted, and I was pretty apprehensive!
It seems like we have to be exposed to everything as much as possible, without causing damage..ie distortion or soreness.
My heart goes out to some people with extreme tolerance collapse, but a cure may be around the corner. Pray for a miracle. I met a lady from Melbourne a few weeks ago, who had Menier's for 5 years and got healed.
So is music therapy at comfortable levels as good as pink noise, or is everyone unique, as in what is best for them?
I have to try and keep my spirits up, and this site offers hope, because I could finally put a label on what I have. I read somewhere else that some vitamins, like ginko biloba and zinc might help, and B's of course. I also read about GABA, but not sure about that as I tried it for a few days and I did not feel too good....
Anyone else had success with supplements? Sleep is another huge issue for me.
Cheers
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Violinist
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| | 10/15/09 at 01:03 PM | Reply with quote | #12 |
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Hi Tony !
Music at a comfortable level has not decreased my hyperacusis, but listening to one CD a day so loud that it was a bit uncomfortable did help me getting much better ! It should not be so loud that you suffer. Have you read "A music protocol for H and phonophobia" ? It was on New Messages in August
-09. Good luck !
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Grahame
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| | 10/16/09 at 04:22 AM | Reply with quote | #13 |
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Hi all
thanks so much for the advice/links on TRT and thu like. My ENT suggested listening to Mozart because of the amount of high frequency notes. He certainly never came up with a de-sensitising protocol like the music one. I willl try it
Grahame
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saab1216
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| | 10/31/09 at 07:45 PM | Reply with quote | #14 |
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Has Mozart helped at all?
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Johnloudb
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| | 10/31/09 at 09:59 PM | Reply with quote | #15 |
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Paul,
Mozart's very good, but so is Bruckner (4th, 8th, 3rd Mass), Shostakovich (7th, 8th, 9th, 10th), Tchaikovsky, Mahler (1st, 6th), ... those will fix your ears good, if not you'll still hear some great music.
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aQuieterBreeze
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| | 11/01/09 at 05:44 PM | Reply with quote | #16 |
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Hi Paul,
I am still working on getting the bass setting on my stereo back to a "normal" level -
(just the regular bass, as I do not have sub woofers, and if I did they would be turned off anyway)
and I did notice the difference when I increased it just a bit recently,
in part because percussion seems more pronounced, and I realize that it (the bass setting on my stereo) is something I will need to work on, probably a bit at a time- over time.
Thankfully I am able to tolerate a lot more in the way of sound in general - than I used to be able to -
and I think in my case it will be helpful for me to do that -
(work on getting the bass on my stereo, back to a "normal" level)
and I wonder
did you ever get the treble on yours back to "normal"? As I thought you mentioned, many months back -
(around the time when you first signed up for the board) that it was turned all the way down -
I noticed that in part because I had the bass turned all the way down on mine at one time - though for quite awhile it has been somewhere around halfway to normal, as I have changed the setting, if and when necessary,
when my hearing/ears get more sensitive at times,
right now, after raising it recently - it is slightly above halfway to normal.
Bass and percussion were very difficult on my hearing/ears and very hard for me to tolerate, at any level at one time -----
And at one time it seems like you had said you could not tolerate the treble, but could not get enough bass----
so I just wonder if you were able to put it (the treble) back to a "normal" setting yet?
It's good to hear that overall you have been noticing a lot of improvement,
That's great news, keep working on things -
I really do believe there are ways to get better-
ways to improve our tolerances to sound.
But it does not happen by itself, (at least not in my case)
it happens by working on it, in ways that appropriate for us to do so -
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saab1216
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| | 11/02/09 at 05:26 PM | Reply with quote | #17 |
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Dear Breeze,Its good to hear that you finally turned up th bass again. As for me,Yes,there was a point in time when Bass was almost absent from my hearing...I mean completely! It took a few months before the bass came rumbling back into focus. I still have aversions to treble and cant quite tolerate the television for long periods of time. Unfortunately.I have an aversion to my wifes voice as it is very sharp .My mother enunciates her "s"s in her speech and it causes me pain. i try to stay away from my wife lately. She doesnt understand how much her voice irritates me. I dont know what to do about this as no marriage counselor in the world could fix this! I may start using cotton in my ears again(ha ha).I am improving in some areas such as keys,silverware. Dishes that slam can cause me to startle at times. it is hard to believe how much people slam dishes like nothing! I was at a diner the other day when the waitress was clearing a table next to me. She was banging and clanging the dishes like they were indestructable! It was beyond irritating for me. It seems as if I am at a standstill again,another stage of the long healing process. My main problems seem to be misophonia to the letter s and sometimes P! When my wife speaks it is if she is sputtering! It is so annoying that I leave the room! Paul
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