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To everyone:

 

I have been discussing the idea of a 'Friendly Chat' forum with the moderators.  This is a trial forum designed to allow participants of this board (and all newcomers) an opportunity to discuss topics other than hyperacusis (i.e. life).  It will be moderated closely.  The moderators have said sometimes this works and sometimes it doesn't.   To help, they have suggested that a seventh rule be added to our message board that prohibits personal information being divulged on this message board (which may have special application to this friendly chat forum).  I hope this is a welcome addition to our message board.  That does not mean that the regular 'New Messages' forum must contain threads exclusively on hyperacusis however it is my hope that friendly chat tends to drift over to the 'Friendly Chat' forum.  Let's give it a try.  Have fun!

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Hard as it may be to believe, the following test question appears on the SAT currently given to high school seniors in The Most Isolated City. 

 


 

Shecky #6 is to The World's First Hyperacusic Cow as ------ is to ------.

 


 

Would anyone like to try to fill in the blanks?  I am told that bonus points, or a complimentary conceptual pizza, are given for originality. 

 

Rob

 

PS  This is my 501st post on the board.  Ouch. 

 

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Not sure how to answer that one buy apparently the following question was on the same SAT:

Shecky #230's biological father (Shecky #180)  has two other daughters (Shecky #231 and #232). It turns out that the biological mother (Shecky #194) of Shecky #231  is also the biological mother of Shecky #232. By some stroke of luck, both Scheky #231 and #232 are born on the same day of the same month of the same year.

However Shecky #231 and Shecky #232 are not twins.

Explain how this can be.

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I have a copy of the SAT in front of me, and the question you raise must be answered in the form of a short essay.  So, here it is.  (My personal feeling is that the basis for the question is apochryphal.  Everyone knows there are just 13 Sheckys.)
 

 
"Talk about your immaculate conception -- this one takes the cake."
 
That's what the bartender said about this unexplained hiccup in the usual order of things.  And, as we will see, this blessed (if confounding) event really did take the cake
 
But before that, and for a long time, people referred to it as "The Immaculate Conception", particularly when within earshot of the priest, who was disdained not for his beliefs -- which many of the townspeople shared -- but for his unyielding humorlessness in defending them when the subject of religion came up (which, in his line of work, was pretty much something you could set your heartburn by).
 
One entrepreneurial member of his flock bought the vacant building across the street from Shecky's Bar and, being the sort who could leave no pun unturned, named it The Immaculate Confection. 
 
One of her best customers was the priest who, as it turned out, had a secret sweet tooth which was easily the equal of his humorlessness.
 
The daughter of Shecky #231 works behind the counter on Tuesdays thru Saturdays, where she is known to seditiously slip a sugared scone to the shambling son of Shecky #232. 
 
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Apologies for going into higher numbers of Sheckys than there are actually are in the present. Assume we are a few generations into the future where there a many more Sheckys (I assume they can reproduce of course).

You are on the right track Rob where there this is indeed a trick question whereby some important detail has been left out. But one clarification is required. In this quiz question, Sheckys and humans are assumed to reproduce in *exactly* the same manner.

Unfortunately for you Rob, it is not the the answer sought by the poser of the question. A valiant attempt indeed, but it is not by means of the immaculate confection or conception that Shecky #231 and #232 have arrived in this world. In fact, Shecky #232 is also a daughter and bares a striking resemblance to Shecky #231. Yet they are not twins.  Although, the immaculate conception *could* explain this, it is such a rare event. There is a much simpler and plausible solution.
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ok, funny story. Eons ago (!), when I moved to California during high school, we had to take this SAT test, I had no idea what it was and I remember my Mom going all over the place to get me a workbook which I sort of worked with. I had no idea what this test was for!

So I showed up in the school cafeteria on a Saturday and sat down next to a classmate who had the flu big-time. It was very distracting. I took it, didn't know most of the answers and figured oh well, it's probably one of those silly IQ tests.

When I got the test results, I was enrolled in bonehead everything in my first semester of college. Oh well, I learned what the SAT was for then!

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DP,

 

I have put your fascinating SAT question to the experts themselves.  The Sheckys are hard at it, with shotglasses in hand, and they assure me they will not get up from their respective barstools without rendering an answer in their accustomed Pig Latin.  One can only stand back in awe.  I will report back here when the lads make their report.  By the way, as you surmise, their reproductive abilities are the same as anyone's. 

 

Rob 

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DP,
 
I have received the following assessment from The Sheckys -- scrawled in Pig Latin on several well-used bar napkins.  I have retained the services of Dr. Flotsam to translate into English.  Here is what it says.
 

 
Sheckys 180 and 194 were casually dating but nether intended to marry the other.  Meanwhile, Shecky 180 had fallen head-over-shotglass for Shecky 194's best friend, a lovely and caring woman, whom Shecky 180 married.  Unbeknownst to all, 194 was recently pregnant with 180's child (the soon-to-be Shecky 231).  Sadly, the newly married couple found that -- despite their desire to begin a family -- Shecky 180's wife could not conceive.  In a moment of epiphanic lunacy, she then asked her best friend, Shecky 194, if she would allow Shecky 180 to act as a sperm donor, carry their child in her womb, and then allow the married couple to raise the child as their own.  Shecky 194 graciously complied and, as luck would have it, two daughters -- 231 and 232 -- were born on the same day of the same month of the same year.  Both daughters live with Shecky 180 and his beaming wife and bear a striking resemblance to the very tired Shecky 194
 
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Hi Rob,

The solution proposed by the Shecky's is plausible. Keep in mind however, that it might be conceivable that a fertility clinic not accept an already pregnant women as carrier for an additional child  (albeit with the same donner sperm) as the risk of complications in increased.  5 points for the great effort and for the creativity of their work...

There is yet  another solution which involves fewer assumptions (Ockham's razor states that the most likely explanation of any phenomenon should make as few assumptions as possible).

So it is still up for grabs, folks.

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Two things:

 

1. I've changed the first sentence of the puzzle to give a bit more info in order to help find the solution.

 

2. I've upped the ante by offering a $100 donation to the Hyperacusis Network in the name of the person who finds the best solution (being a resident of Canada, my donation to American charities are not tax deductable anyways). If the person who finds the best solution cannot use the tax credit, I will send a prize/gift/cash equivalent to the tax deduction.

 

dp

 

 

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Henk

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Maybe #230 was born on that day as well ...?

(what was the first sentence before you changed it?)

 

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Hank,

 

You can make any assumption you want. But given your assumpions, you have to explain why 231 and 232 are not twins.

 

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Henk

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... mmm ... because they form a triplet?

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Correct!!!

 

Henk is the winner. Congratulations!

 

I will arrange a donation the Hypercausis Network in your name. PM (private message) me your info.

 

DP

 

 

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Way to go, Henk.

 

Triplets, eh? 

 

I haven't been this confused since Shecky #5 performed a rousing a capella version of "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" in Pig Latin while wearing a hairshirt emblazoned with a picture of Charlemagne balancing a first edition of Chanson de Roland on his head -- a neat trick as the book hadn't yet been written or its author born

 

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