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Addie

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Hi Guys.

I've had Tinnitus for 9 years, always managed it very well with ear plugs and although had a few spikes it hadn't gotten worse.

However, month ago I was in a 'loud bar' after having a few too many drinks, was still able to hold a converation over a table but it has caused a big spike in my tinnitus which I am only just starting to deal with mentally.

My question is that I have a sharp pain in my ears which sounds almost like I have hyperacusis to my own new higher pitched tinnitus tone! I can't pin point a actual sound / frequency which I dislike (I have never liked high pitched hard drive or CRT noises).

Rather then diagnose me as I understand that we are all on this journey of hearing issues together, I wonder if you could give me some tips to managing and monitoring this condition and if you feel it could be Hyperacusis to just sound in general?

If you also consider that I have had severe stressed and anxiety for most of the last 4 weeks and only now seeing to take control of my emotions as I have realised that 'waiting' for my ears to get better was not working so now I am going to get better and hopefully bring my ears along with me.

Thanks all.

Addie.




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Layla

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Hi Addie,
My tinnitus (I only had little of it) got better with massage of tense neck muscles and nutrition. There's quite a bit about this on the board already, if you do a search.

Is stress and anxiety mostly due to tinnitus and h. or from another reason? If so, I heartily recommend you try to deal with the other reason/s. (eg, write it all down, journal about it, write down options or worst case scenarios and how you could deal with the situations then, etc Or talk to a friend, or read a good book about this.).
uhm, avoid loud bars? might even ask people to turn the volume down? (Other people can get hearing damage from too loud noise too!! Deaf or h. or t.!)
I've been to a drumming concert and grimaced at the louder sounds (and used fingers as ear plugs when worst) and they turned down the volume! Wow!
I hear you can talk with musicians' earplugs too, have you got those?

Yup, as you get calmer, ears will get better too. Good luck!

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Addie

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After writing my post I did book in for a massage and my neck and shoulders feel better today, with the pain just being in my ears now.

Yes, the loud bar was my fault and I've paid the price dearly. That said it was probably under 90db and 30 minutes exposure. To put it into context, I've been so careful with my ears that I doubt I've been exposed to anything louder then 90db for more than 10 minutes collectively for the last year or so.

That said I've decided to give up drinking alcohol outside the home to ensure I don't slip up again and have bought a pocket DB metre if ever I am not sure. I don't have musicians plugs, I find hearos 33 plugs are better but I am going to get some custom 'full blocks' (no filters) made for maximum protection.

I had already had a stressful month and the reason for going out was to celebrate coming out of that, how ironic that in doing so it caused me the greatest stress of my life. I think the stress was caused my the 'T'.




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Layla

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hmm, alcohol can deplete magnesium levels (and other vitamins/minerals) It can make tinnitus/h. worse. (So can sugar/sweets, or sometimes coffee/caffeine or sodas etc.)

I made sure to eat enough vitamins/minerals (the ones I usually lacked and that might make a difference) after tinnitus or h. or stress episodes. I took some supplements too, I don't generally recommend it, as they may ruin your stomach, better to get stuff with food, if you can. (I still occasionally drink a tiny amount of magnesium whizz pill, only a tiny part.) I was happy that h. improved at the time though, so disregarded the side-effects.

Both stress and loudness can trigger off the t. These things combine. A pocket DB meter seems like a good idea, many of these places are too loud. 

As you stop fearing the t. and h. it will get better! My t. went away in about a month, I think. (It was due to a bad ENT exam! that overloaded my ears with too much noise) H. got better too, eventually, as I found out more about it. It's still not 100% over, with ups and downs, it's much better than it was though!

Are you sensitive to actual real sounds(=h.) or just the t. in your head(=probably something else, or just the t./ear/noise trauma) ?
The way I see it, our ears and brain are wonderful things, made of tiny little parts, eg neurons, and the neurons have myelin sheaths, and with stress/alcohol/bad nutrition we exhaust body reserves of some of that material (minerals/proteins/essential fatty acids), and there can be bad signals or disturbances in the signal, and then we just need to replenish it and grow the myelin sheaths okay again. So I just waited and tried to eat right until the neurons got okay again. Tried to do relaxation and massage when I could, pamper myself and take it easy.
We are all different and this can or cannot be the case with you, you could give it a try and see if it helps.

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Addie

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Hi Guys,

I am still suffering so thought I would bump this thread. I feel I am making inroads with my tinnitus, but the sensation in my ears (sore / ache / discomfort / pressure / fullness) is not helping.

I think it may be connected to H as although the above symptoms do appear to come on without cause, they do come on exceptionally strong after being in a supermarket for example. These are all things I could do perfectly well with T prior to the recent noise exposure listed above.

Has anyone had any sucess with any medications to treat inflamation, steriod or otherwise?

Thanks

A

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LynnMcLaren

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Hi Addie, (((( Smiles ))))

Thats interesting...
I also developed pain like sharp cutting with my tinnitus at one time..
Like hyperacusis to my tinnitus pitch slicing through..
But that kind of tinnitus is all better for me now.
Intereresting how you described it and in my case I did develope a hyperacusis.. 
I'm much better now and my tinnitus was progressive depending on many factors many tests ect..
Things you should avoid if you don't need to do it..
It may resolve itself with avoiding loud noise exposure..
Sometimes things just take alittle bit more time to settle down.
Treating inflammation is always good.
There are things people try to treat it naturally instead.
Depends... (((( Smiles ))))

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LynnMcLaren

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Hi Layla, (((( Smiles ))))

Interesting...
Inner ear neurons and myelin sheaths.
Myelin regeneration fish oil being the building block for neurons in the brain.
Fish oil is suppose to help with myelination..
And fish oil the omega's was wrote about as being good on this board.
Also the inner ear neuron myelin and autism interesting research and there is a sound sensitivity problem in autism from a lite case to extreme cases and one just never knows it also can be a problem in MS & Lyme and lots of medical conditions have the symptom of sound sensitivity problems all the way to classic hyperacusis..
your post caught my eye as I've been mostly busy searching the web and reading this biomedical book on this subject myelin sheaths endothalial cells ect...
All that relate and connect up.
What you wrote minerals/proteins/essential fatty acids sounds good to me.
Interactions of primary neuroepithelial progenitor and brain endothelial cells just all interesting stuff..
this myelination thing too really caught my eye.. (((( Smiles ))))

Plus as as unmyelinated neural circuits are more susceptible to harmful toxins/antibodies it's best that one makes sure the fish oil is free of mercury PCB's ect..
It's better to be safe then sorry for sure..
Just in case that is of course...

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