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Ophelia

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Hello!
Does anyone know of any computers that aren't as "loud" as others?  My computer (a PowerBook G4) is hard to be on for more than twenty minutes or so.  Also, do earmuffs help with being on the computer?  I don't want to over-protect myself, but I also want to keep noise to a tolerable level. 

Thanks!

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Would it help to use longer cords to get the keyboard and screen farther away from the tower?  (Or are you referring to the noise of the keyboards?)

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Actually, I was wondering about the high frequency emitted from computers. : D
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Hi Ophelia, ((( Smiles )))

I don't know the frequency level..

the broadband width emmited by computers.

I guess it would depend on ones computer but if there is an average width.

I just don't know.. Need to look that up..

That has to be out there somewhere on the web..

Though the web is so wide and big...

 

All the research and listing of sites I've done overtime..

Has taken me like.. Forever to find..

 

But the good news is people listen to the towers of their computers

before H and have listened to them after H..

And somewhere around and in the middle..

 

In getting back to life.. But though usually emitted at a low decible level..

And depending also where your tower is located..

Being inside a solid wood computer desk or in an open cart ect...

Or what brand or model you have..

 

But good question to ask..

But the answer to that.. I don't know..

But it's somewhere out there..

For sure.. In web land... (((( Smiles )))) 


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Oh, (((( Smiles ))))

 

And some of the factors I factored in there..

Would have more to do with DB level then the broadband

width...


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ah...the lovely computers...my computer makes an annoying hum, but it's not so bad.  i can live...being the generation of computer frenzy...how can I resist?
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Interesting subject, and very timely considering I just got back from the Apple Store where I was looking at computers and trying to figure out how quiet they are, which was difficult to do in the noisy store.  I wanted to ask everybody to be quiet or leave the store, but I figured if I did that, they'd ask me to leave so I didn't say anything.    Instead, I just walked around putting my ear up to all the computers.  Not really a very good gauge.

Right now I have a Mac iBook G4, that's almost 3 years old.  I've been happy with how quiet it is.  Next week I'm probably gonna get a 15" MacBook Pro, and if I discover it's too noisy when I get it home, then I will return it and try something else. 

Both Mac's that I referenced are laptops, and I use my current one with a wireless keyboard and mouse so I'm further away from the computer than someone would be if they were typing on the built in keyboard.  I have to put my ear to the computer to hear any noise. 

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Ophelia

I have a compaq computer, which seems to be fairly quiet, but not quiet enough.

So, I've got about 20-foot cords going from my screen and keyboard to the tower which is in another room.

I have the cords going under the floor and coming up to the tower in the room across the hall. The cords could also be placed across the floor and held down with tape or a rug.

The electronic and fan noise seems to come from the tower, not the TV screen or the keyboard. Could put the tower in a clean closet and let air come in from under the closet door so it won't overheat.

Be careful with overheating a computer, due to lack of air circulation, because fi it does, you'll have to get it repaired.

Long cords can perhaps be bought at a computer store, so you'll just have to ask around. Some cords might not work the average computer from 20 or 25 feet away, so you'll have to ask the sales people.

Bought a cheap computer once, but it was so high-pitched and noisey, I couldn't even go near it to cut it off, so I would avoid those kinds of computers.

Because the tower is in another room, I don't have to wear earphones and overprotect my ears everytime I use the computer.

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hi, i have to go to bed so i have to make this fast.

i hate computers they kill my ears.

i have a lab top that i love, it is a toshiba. has satellite written on left side of key board,  harman/kardon on upper right side. it is so, so quiet. i love it cause the computer is my main way of communicating. once in awhile the fan will go on but it's not alot & when it does it's not that bad.

i would recommend this type to anyone suffering with h/t. i have h/t real bad where i can't listen to tv, radio, use phone but i can use my lab top

good luck.

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I'm rethinking my computer choice since I don't really need a laptop, I just need QUIET...and a Mac.  So now I'm considering the iMac (instead of the PowerBook Pro).  I've spoken to several people at Apple who have all told me it's a very quiet computer, and they don't hear any noise from it except when loading a disk (something I rarely do).  However, none of those people have hyperacusis, plus they all work for Apple...

So, I would appreciate feedback from anyone reading this post who has one of the new iMac's with the Intel Core 2 Duo Processor.  Is is really quiet? 

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My PowerBook is sometimes too loud for me to use, so I resort to using a friend's computer (I'm on it right now!) which is a MacBook. The problem with the new MacBooks, as much of my class has discovered (they all bought them for school) is that they do this weird thing where they shut down randomly. It's very odd, and it does it more and more. My friend sent hers in, and they fixed it right up, but I know many people who have had the same problem.
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I am new to these forums as this is my first post, but i thought maybe I could start here, by maybe trying to give some info to help out.

I have a friend that has a 15" macbook pro, and it seems to be silent except for inserting, or ejecting a cd which is very noisy comparitively.  This is probably the quietest computer I have ever worked with though.  I have used his computer a lot{installed windows so that he could either boot to windows or mac os x}  I dont recall any sound like normal computers[hard drive starting, fans]  Tomorrow when I see him I will check it out more closely.  Did the person that was looking to buy a computer in this thread make a purchase yet?  Maybe they could post back and let everyone know what their experience has been.

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Did the person that was looking to buy a computer in this thread make a purchase yet?  Maybe they could post back and let everyone know what their experience has been.

Hi guy

Welcome to the board!  

Ophelia was the person who started this thread and made the initial inquiry, but I also commented that I was getting ready to buy another computer, and I purchased one a couple of weeks ago. 

I'd been using an iBook for the past three years and was perfectly happy with it, but still I wanted to get another computer because the warranty and free tech support was about to expire, and I like knowing I can call up Apple when ever I please and ask important questions like..."what's a mouse pad?"...and not be charged $50 for the call.  

So anyway, I did a looooot of research on the web, and I went to the Apple store twice and pressed my ear up against the computers to see how quiet they were, but who could tell in the noisy store?  I waffled back and forth between the iMac and the MacBook Pro.  I finally went with the iMac, when three sales guys in the Apple store claimed the iMac was their quietest computer, and the MacBook Pro wasn't any quieter.  Since I didn't need a laptop,  I opted to go with the iMac because of the bigger screen and the cheaper price tag.  However, if the iMac is really their quietest computer, then Apple is going in the wrong direction, because the computer I purchased three years ago from them was quieter than what I have now.  Still I can live with it, and I'm not taking it back. 

For anyone else considering an iMac, here a link to the most extensive article I found about it's noise level.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article594-page4.html

Darcy

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when I was at my worst a few years ago, buying and using a computer was tops on my list as being most frustrating!

We have 4 Mac's here, at least, I think we still do, not all are quiet but some are. And yes, hard to know in the store.

How about trying contacting the Applie company in Cupertino, California and asking someone for guidance on which models are best for someone sensitive to noise? I would not rely on the store people, perhaps Tech Support could help you.
Also, Dan may know, he's reviewed computers before, how about Consumer Reports?

I also as part of my TRT run light music on my ipod which is on a docking station on a table behind me so that helps with any leftover sensitivity. I bought this computer at a garage sale, it's an older Mac that needs to be replaced soon. One of my husband's Mac's, a notebook, drives me crazy but the newest one hardly makes any noise at all.

Keep on keeping...

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How about trying contacting the Applie company in Cupertino, California and asking someone for guidance on which models are best for someone sensitive to noise? I would not rely on the store people, perhaps Tech Support could help you.


Hi Jane

I spoke to at least half a dozen people at tech support and got varying opinions on all of their computers.  They were no help AT ALL.  Most people just don't have our hypersensitive hearing, and what we notice, they don't even hear. 

I will see if I can find someone in Cupertino to get more info from and post whatever I learn.

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I just got off the phone with Apple in Cupertino.  Spoke to two people who didn't have the information.  They're investigating further and said they will get back to me...or I can call them back.   Those two people are now aware of hyperacusis and that there is a message board on the web that is waiting for more info on their products.  Will this make a difference?  Will I get more info?  I dunno...  (This is starting to remind me of the cow thread.)

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Ophelia

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I'm sorry, the cow thread? 
It sounds like you got much further than I ever did.. I think it would be beneficial to get more information.

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Hello. I just discovered this forum tonight. We have several macs in our home. And my laptop makes me crazy. I took it to the "genius bar" at the apple store last week and asked why all the noise. The kid/genius said noisy computers are usually caused by using third-party ram. Then, he popped off my keyboard and said, "yep, you got that". So, there is one theory.

While on the subject of macs, incase you are shopping for an external drive for your computer...I have three firewire drives. One is pretty quiet, the second one sounds like a baby crying and the third one... well, I can't use it because the noise is too painful.

Glad to join your group. Julie
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Ophelia,

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I'm sorry, the cow thread? 
It sounds like you got much further than I ever did.. I think it would be beneficial to get more information.

Apologies for the confusion.  I thought you'd know what I was referring to.  When I said "the cow thread" I was referring to the a thread entitled "A Word from the World's First Hyperacusic Cow."  It's the longest thread on the board.  It started on this board and was then continued on the Friendly Chat board.  I've been participating in that thread for over 2 months now and mostly all I have are questions with no answers, and the same is true for the noise level of Apple computers -- i.e., I have questions with no answers.

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An update -

I just got a call back from Apple Computer in Cupertino.  I was told that Apple doesn't have any noise level specifications available for any of their computers.  I was also told that the new Macs, with the Intel processing chip, are quieter than the previous Macs because they run cooler and require fewer fans.   However, as far as the actual dB level...?  

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thanks, Darcy, for doing all of that, actually, it sounds good even though they are not measuring db levels, they should!

I would suspect having met one of the co-founders of Apple that the original mission had to do with bringing user friendly computers and, we've noticed with Jobs at the helm, quiter ones than pc's.

But things change.

I would say if you can't find a consumer reports article on this or Dan has done a review before lately, it may be something you want to cut a deal with when you buy someting, make SURE they have a liberal return policy with no restocking fee.

We bought one and brought it home outside the store, it was some years ago and it didn't work at all, we returned it and the used computer store where we bought it hit us up for a big restocking fee.

But a new one, doubt it. But make sure you don't ding it, etc. I THINK Apple is pretty good about that if it's not damaged.

Thanks again Darcy, good work!

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oh another idea with Apple if you want to go back to the drawing board with them is write STEVE JOBS a letter. Yep, I wrote Steve Wozniak a personal letter some years ago to interview him and darned if his office didn't call me. Surely he would know AND if he know there was a market for a quiet computer, hey, maybe you and others with Hyperaucsis could help him create a quiet one.

Just a thought.

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Jane,

Apple charges a 10% restocking fee if you return a new computer, unless it's defective.  Unfortunately, not liking the sound of the computer doesn't count as a computer defect -- it's just our sensitive ears. 

I do intend to offer more feedback, but dunno if I'll do it via Steve Jobs.  I'll consider it. 

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it may or may not get to him BUT I know he's very customer centric and perhaps the company hasn't grown too much to prevent that.

Another idea that I sometimes use: go to the PR Department, they are totally helpful in many cases. Once when I had a problem with American Airlines and I could not get anywhere at all, I called the PR Department in Dallas, voila, they solved the whole thing in minutes!

Sometimes too going to the Assistant ot the Big Honcho helps. One time we couldn't get anywhere with one of our governmental departments in California, we met the Chief of Staff to the Director of the entire department at a coffee place in Silicon Valley, he lives locally and was over there on business from Sacramento. Within two hours, the entire thing was solved.

Could be worth it, eh?!

Every CEO has an Assistant still, I think...

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Jane,

I know people who work for Steve Jobs, and I could probably get a letter to him if I really wanted to. just dunno if that's the best route to go. 

Thanks for all your suggestions.  I'll work on this and keep the board posted. 

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